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I had a copy of Gears of War (a GFWL-game) so installed it and fired it up. I got an error message telling me to update the driver of my CPU, otherwise the game would work but stop some time in the future, losing my progress. I was not even aware the CPU had a driver to begin with (nothing has ever required me to update this) and I am puzzled how failure to update could possibly result in losing my progress (why would driver error delete any files?). The error message persisted even after updating the driver and patching the game BTW. It probably has to do with this huge fuck-up.
When the game finally started I had to update GFWL, but it could not get downloaded, probably network problems suggested the error message. I could solve this only by logging in as an admin and then running the game (logging in as a normal user and then running the game as admin kept me getting the error message, that's just great). The only game I know of with the same silly flaw is BF2142. It still is beyond me why games so often require admin righs to run (or save) BTW, just lazy programming I guess.
So then I had to create a GFWL-account. My email address was said to already have an account attached to it (no way Jose!) so I had to reset that one and fill out really significant data like my birtyday and a nick and pick an avatar or whatever. How could games ever have run flawlessly before without such vital information you could ask if you were stupid. If I understand it correctly I now have to be online to save my progress for a single player campaign, that's a great feature!
Steam works much less invasive than this GFWL-bullshit. OTOH GFWL does not seem to have the 'one registration per serial only'-limitation of Steam: my second hand copy of GoW could be registered without any problem.
The 10 minutes I had left to play the game after spending hours getting it to run were not too promising. You need both mouse buttons to fire a gun and, apart from the WASD-keys all other actions seem to be mapped to 1 single key (space) so if you want to jump over something you find your character taking cover behind it and vice versa. Oh, and the (Epic an Microsoft) splash screens are non-skippable, they probably thought people rather spend their time watching splash screens than playing the game, but hey, they know their game best so maybe they are right about that.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:10 am
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My view on GOW for the PC is that the controls are fairly good, so just give it some time to get used to, however, this is what's know as a cover and gun, and I'm never going to buy a pure c&g again....I don't mind the inclusion of a cover system, but don't like "it" being the feature of the game.
Re: Games for Windows Live
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:19 am
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berzerker wrote:
I recently had my first experience with GFWL.
well i am glad you felt the same way i did. i tell you GFWL is BS. i felt the same way with gtaIV. its been put back into the box and on my bookshelf ( yes i read books! )
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:00 pm
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_Master_ wrote:
GFWL is BS. i felt the same way with gtaIV. its been put back into the box and on my bookshelf
Why did you buy GTA IV (second hand, I presume) then? You said recently that buying useless second hand games happens only to "stupid ppl" and you're obviously not stupid, how is this possible then?
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:52 am
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ur questions will be answered, but patience is needed
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:56 am
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Please please please give us the answer now!
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:14 am
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hmmm.....your patience has been tested. you have done very well. so you seek the answer?
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:06 am
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Pogma9 wrote:
My view on GOW for the PC is that the controls are fairly good, so just give it some time to get used to
I just could not bring myself to continue playing this game so I sold it.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:54 am
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berzerker wrote:
Pogma9 wrote:
My view on GOW for the PC is that the controls are fairly good, so just give it some time to get used to
I just could not bring myself to continue playing this game so I sold it.
Me to....it presents well, but it gets very monotonous.
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:00 am
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played 30mins...it seemed without any real substance to me, boring dialogues, for kids less than 10 neurons
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:03 am
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Moving your save games (e.g. if you upgrade your PC to a new windows version) seems to become a hassle when using GFWL too, see for example here.
didnt click it..can u cut and paste it here? so that we can all have a hearty laugh
Here it is you lazy bitch!
Quote:
God had I fun with GFW yesterday :-)
After not using it for some weeks I gave it a try and looked into the
running special deals.
So I started GFW... and got a mighty 8723581234whatever error. Oh Lord.
Aunt Google didn't know anything. Bing suggested installing Service Pack
6 for WinNT on my Win7. I am running XP though.
Being a trained psychopath in the arts of computer insanity I rebooted
into my Admin-Account, tried again, now it is a
8723581235youdontwanttoknow error.
If everything fails, update and/or reinstall everything. Microsoft
Update found GFW3.4 in the special section of unsupported updates behind
the warning sign "hungry unhappy lions beyond this point" which have to
be installed using a holy mackarell and parts of a 1987 Ford Accolade
while walking 30 miles in a blizzard.
Three lions later I get a GFW login window WITHOUT AN ERROR. Hail
Microsoft, you are quite the daring saviour, let me enter my account, we
praise you, here is my password, be your generosity upon us...
8723581236yousuck error.
...
...
After replacing my headbutted display I pray to the allknowing gods and
daemons of the interweebs. Bing suggests buying bottled monkeys
featuring a sponsored link to Amazon. Google features 15 hits on raw
squid log files and then a link into the xbox forum - right, you have a
problem with your Games for Windows access and the best place to get
help is the xbox forum. I should check out the bottled monkeys again,
maybe I missed the FAQ about GFW over there.
Inside the xbox forum I find three topics about the problem. Always with
the first post stating "I have an 8723581236yousuck error", a random
number of "me too" and finally "noone got a solution" and then "topic
closed".
Oh wait, the fifth topic gets help. It is actually about "where to get
the AOE3 deal" but someone mentions "I had to accept the new EULA
through Live Messenger to connect with my account, had a funny
8723581236yousuck otherwise" - he was banned within 20 minutes for
posting offtopic, he was asking for that.
Sumup: you have to log into a chat programm (which sucks so big wide and
ugly that you have personally revoked execution rights for that piece of
crap by directly edition the binary data in a disc editor, you actually
learned programming and studied six semesters computer sciendce only to
get rid of it) to receive a message that totally different other program
has changed its EULA, then you have to accept the new EULA inside said
chat client which opens moar info in firefox though firefox fails at
displaying any of the information because it is obviously 7bit-PETSCII
using a rare silverlight based online translation from chinese to
russian to french to bavarian and then to english. I actually have
german as my desktop language but fine with me. Ah yes, it is using
incompatible Javascript as well. By making IE my default browser - which
instantly killed most sentient live five miles around my house - I get
the full EULA.
And guess what happens when I press the "I accept" button. You wont
believe it. This is not happening, cant be, dogs and cats in love. It
works. I can log into GFW.
Let me guess, Microsoft tests the GFW client by typing "hello world"
into a random MSN chat window, ignoring the "you are not connected"
message and then shoting the computer with bottled monkeys to stopp the
smoking power supply from fataly poisioning the user. Resulting in
poison death of the user AND the bottled monkey. Claiming that the
bottled monkey had the experience of his life.
Did you really expect me to post a link to a suspected site or whatever?
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:25 pm
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berzerker wrote:
Here it is you lazy bitch!
not lazy, just that when i take the subway occasionally, i expect it to take it to the destination without jumping trains, likewise i like my content served up my face while surfin
berzerker wrote:
Did you really expect me to post a link to a suspected site or whatever?
i dont expect much once i visit vgs.com, but dont take it personally, personally!
.....btw GFWL sucks, we should make a game where you capture microsoft executives and make them try to play a game and for every failure torture them and what not!!!!!
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:52 am
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Whatever, anyway, the post I quoted is quite lengthy and a bit tedious at times, but there are some really funny parts in there. Apparently GFWL update only works if you use all sorts of MS-crap, from chat program to browser, as default and gives completely random error messages if you don't.
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:05 am
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berzerker wrote:
Whatever,
hehehe
berzerker wrote:
anyway, the post I quoted is quite lengthy and a bit tedious at times, but there are some really funny parts in there. Apparently GFWL update only works if you use all sorts of MS-crap, from chat program to browser, as default and gives completely random error messages if you don't.
GFWL is a big menace, forget abut steam, the authorities should focus all their energies on getting rid of GFWL
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:40 am
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berzerker wrote:
Steam works much less invasive than this GFWL-bullshit. OTOH GFWL does not seem to have the 'one registration per serial only'-limitation of Steam: my second hand copy of GoW could be registered without any problem.
I just read on usenet that this may be a developer option. Codemasters allegedly ties the serial of their DIRT games to a GFWL-account. If that is really the case this would basically give these games all the disadvantages of GFWL while taking away the only advantage it has over Steam.
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