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I think a perfect example would be if we were to make it illegal for women to wear high heel shoes. In both cases it is something that is expected of women, even though it is sexist (women are not meant for decoration). It would be best if social progress tackled this issue.
completely disagree with this Islamic comment. This is the typical islamic brainless male attitude.
First of all the burka is something that is enforced. if you dont wear a burka then the consequences are very serious. In islamic countries you can be lashed or stoned and be punished by the moral police and looked down upon the islamic society. The burka is something that the religion of islam clearly describes how a women should dress. It absolutely gives no choice or freedom to women, she cannot even reveal her skin even by mistake.
High heels are something on the other hand that a woman can choose when to wear. No one is going to punish if you dont have them, a women decides when and where she wants to have them and how she wants to have them.
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Re: belgian burka ban
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:44 pm
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First of all the burka is something that is enforced. if you dont wear a burka then the consequences are very serious. In islamic countries you can be lashed or stoned and be punished by the moral police and looked down upon the islamic society.
You seem to have missed the point that it is about a *Belgian* proposal, I do not think women in Belgium will be punished by the moral police or stoned if they do not wear the burka.
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The burka is something that the religion of islam clearly describes how a women should dress.
If this is so clearly the case, then why is this not worn in all Islamic countries? I do not think you'll see many burkas in Indonesia, Morocco or Turkey.
Re: belgian burka ban
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:04 pm
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berzerker wrote:
You seem to have missed the point that it is about a *Belgian* proposal, I do not think women in Belgium will be punished by the moral police or stoned if they do not wear the burka.
no i think i am spot on. Belgium or off world colony, you will always have
1. security issues
2. communication issues
berzerker wrote:
_Master_ wrote:
The burka is something that the religion of islam clearly describes how a women should dress.
If this is so clearly the case, then why is this not worn in all Islamic countries?
it is indeed worn in all Islamic countries.
berzerker wrote:
I do not think you'll see many burkas in Indonesia, Morocco or Turkey.
nevertheless you do see them in Islamic countries.
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:20 pm
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berzerker wrote:
I do not think you'll see many burkas in Indonesia, Morocco or Turkey.
then these countries are not following islamic laws correctly. call them a bit liberal.
take morocco, it had a lot of french influence...read up history. also Casablanca anyone?
Turkey is secular by design politically and not islamic, but majority however is islamic. A lot of european influence is present in turkey.
and indonesia
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Re: belgian burka ban
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:24 pm
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berzerker wrote:
You seem to have missed the point that it is about a *Belgian* proposal, I do not think women in Belgium will be punished by the moral police or stoned if they do not wear the burka.
no i think i am spot on. Belgium or off world colony, you will always have
1. security issues
2. communication issues
full retard
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berzerker wrote:
_Master_ wrote:
The burka is something that the religion of islam clearly describes how a women should dress.
If this is so clearly the case, then why is this not worn in all Islamic countries?
it is indeed worn in all Islamic countries.
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berzerker wrote:
I do not think you'll see many burkas in Indonesia, Morocco or Turkey.
nevertheless you do see them in Islamic countries.
FULL RETARD
Re: belgian burka ban
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:55 pm
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puk wrote:
_Master_ wrote:
berzerker wrote:
You seem to have missed the point that it is about a *Belgian* proposal, I do not think women in Belgium will be punished by the moral police or stoned if they do not wear the burka.
no i think i am spot on. Belgium or off world colony, you will always have
1. security issues
2. communication issues
A suspected militant from Germany has been detained in north-west Pakistan wearing a burka, police say.
i keep telling you fuckin idiots the dangers of this unfashionable medieval cloth bag and every time i am so right and this pukake bastard is such a big fuckin ignoramus, in fact i think he has refined dog shit in his brains.
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:21 am
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The problem with you is that each time you take out 1 idiot and hold the whole community responsible for his behaviour, and you've been told this several times yet you keep doing this, so apparently you think this is reasonable.
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:07 am
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The problem with you is that each time you take out 1 idiot and hold the whole community responsible for his behaviour, and you've been told this several times yet you keep doing this, so apparently you think this is reasonable.
are you fucking kidding me?? or is it that you have lost your brain altogether?? 1 idiot? so you think its because of just 1 idiot that the US/Europe spends billions of $ on counter-terrorism? i see this pattern several times now where your simply refuse to see the facts and prefer to stuff your head in the toilet bowl to suit your non-rational beliefs of freedom and equality which simply dont exist. I bet when your kids are fragged by some terrorist, you wont be farting from your mouth like your doing now.Your comment is simply a reflection of your superficial knowledge in general.
The problem with you is that each time you take out 1 idiot and hold the whole community responsible for his behaviour, and you've been told this several times yet you keep doing this, so apparently you think this is reasonable.
are you fucking kidding me?? or is it that you have lost your brain altogether?? 1 idiot? so you think its because of just 1 idiot that the US/Europe spends billions of $ on counter-terrorism?
As you can see I said "each time you take out one idiot" I didn't say "each time you take out the same idiot" did I?
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I bet when your kids are fragged by some terrorist, you wont be farting from your mouth like your doing now.
The fact that you keep bringing this 'wait till it happens to you'-stuff up, shows that you cannot possibly imagine that some people think of the larger picture before making up their mind (because if they did, the fact that it could affect themselves too is completely irrelevant). Not everyone is so self-centered as you.
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:40 am
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He's talking about you acting anecdotal
i provided a bbc link and i have provided several other bbc links. how in the right mind are you saying they are anecdotal?
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:52 am
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puk wrote:
He's talking about you acting anecdotal
i provided a bbc link and i have provided several other bbc links. how in the right mind are you saying they are anecdotal?
That link has a story about one person wearing a burka, and you use this in support of your position: "i keep telling you fuckin idiots the dangers of this unfashionable medieval cloth bag..."
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:54 am
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berzerker wrote:
The problem with you is that each time you take out 1 idiot and hold the whole community responsible for his behaviour, and you've been told this several times yet you keep doing this, so apparently you think this is reasonable.
are you fucking kidding me?? or is it that you have lost your brain altogether?? 1 idiot? so you think its because of just 1 idiot that the US/Europe spends billions of $ on counter-terrorism?
As you can see I said "each time you take out one idiot" I didn't say "each time you take out the same idiot" did I?
do you really believe that there is only one idiot in each of those cases? do you completely disagree that there will always be not more than one idiot in each of all the cases bbc has reported? is it so hard for you to think that there could be the possibility of more than one idiot in your idiotic mind?
berzerker wrote:
_Master_ wrote:
I bet when your kids are fragged by some terrorist, you wont be farting from your mouth like your doing now.
The fact that you keep bringing this 'wait till it happens to you'-stuff up, shows that you cannot possibly imagine that some people think of the larger picture before making up their mind (because if they did, the fact that it could affect themselves too is completely irrelevant). Not everyone is so self-centered as you.
complete bullshit,larger picture donkeys ass. fuck you, your are just a superficial pesudo intellectual sob. its only when people like you get personally affected by it takes them to wake up from their fake ideologies. in the us we where fine untill 9/11, that whole incident was needed to give a swift boot to the asses of politicians to wake up. this included profiling Muslims which is even done today. eg in the airports, embassy's abroad. and it didnt take a nation full of Islamic faggots to change their mind, rather a small select set of few individuals who accomplished max damage. every act of a Muslim doing stupid acts like this is only going to make it harder for these donkeys to adapt in the western world. but ofcourse we have idiots in our country too just like you who don't see it coming in their asses till the end.
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:01 am
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puk wrote:
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puk wrote:
He's talking about you acting anecdotal
i provided a bbc link and i have provided several other bbc links. how in the right mind are you saying they are anecdotal?
That link has a story about one person wearing a burka, and you use this in support of your position: "i keep telling you fuckin idiots the dangers of this unfashionable medieval cloth bag..."
it is a bbc link, its not anecdotal. just because the reply was not from your bum-buddy doesn't automatically make it anecdotal. also see my reply to your personal bum-wammer. ie do you really think there will never be more than one incident? from your reply i am implying you actually did consider that, oh wait no you didnt come with that yourself, you just repeated it like a parrot. proves my point that you guys are incapable of anykind of simple logical thinking.
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:06 am
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puk wrote:
_Master_ wrote:
puk wrote:
He's talking about you acting anecdotal
i provided a bbc link and i have provided several other bbc links. how in the right mind are you saying they are anecdotal?
That link has a story about one person wearing a burka, and you use this in support of your position: "i keep telling you fuckin idiots the dangers of this unfashionable medieval cloth bag..."
it is a bbc link, its not anecdotal. just because the reply was not from your bum-buddy doesn't automatically make it anecdotal. also see my reply to your personal bum-wammer. ie do you really think there will never be more than one incident? from your reply i am implying you actually did consider that, oh wait no you didnt come with that yourself, you just repeated it like a parrot. proves my point that you guys are incapable of anykind of simple logical thinking.
More 4 year old behaviour from the captn.
The link itself might well not be anecdotal, but you application of it to every case of wearing a burka is.
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:13 am
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More 4 year old behaviour from the captn.
who is the captn?
puk wrote:
The link itself might well not be anecdotal, but you application of it to every case of wearing a burka is.
read what i said the potential security problem of burka. you said that was anecdotal, but then here today there is proof of that in the bbc link, which makes your comment what do i say? whats the word? yeah anecdotal. there may have been more incidents like this in the past and many more to come the future, try to use your common sense if you have any.
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:22 am
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...but then here today there is proof of that in the bbc link, which makes your comment what do i say? whats the word? yeah anecdotal.
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that I made one argument, then the exact opposite, that is contradictory, not anecdotal.
You taking one story about one case and applying it to every case is anecdotal.
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:33 am
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puk wrote:
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...but then here today there is proof of that in the bbc link, which makes your comment what do i say? whats the word? yeah anecdotal.
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that I made one argument, then the exact opposite, that is contradictory, not anecdotal.
your comments in general are a mixture of both
puk wrote:
You taking one story about one case and applying it to every case is anecdotal.
for example what you refer as stores is infact anecdotal, the bbc links stand as proof to that. second you have lost to another argument again and have started your default mud slinging tactics.
summary
->you supported there can only ever be one idiot who uses the burka
=>common sense says not true
->you said burka posing a security threat is anecdotal
=> the bbc link invalidates your comment and also exposes your radical support of islam.
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:20 am
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puk wrote:
You taking one story about one case and applying it to every case is anecdotal.
for example what you refer as stores is infact anecdotal, the bbc links stand as proof to that. second you have lost to another argument again and have started your default mud slinging tactics.
You are, yet again, confused as to what I mean by anecdotal. We covered this here. I really don't know where you're going with this whole stories-anecdotal-bbc thing. So the BBC link stands as proof that it's a story, therefore, you are anecdotal?
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summary
->you supported there can only ever be one idiot who uses the burka
=>common sense says not true
->you said burka posing a security threat is anecdotal
=> the bbc link invalidates your comment and also exposes your radical support of islam.
I never made that "only one idiot" claim, Berzerker did. And I never said the burka posing a security threat is anecdotal. And the BBC link doesn't invalidate my comment. Far from it; what I said is that the BBC link being used to prove that burkas in general pose a security threat is annecdotal evidence.
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