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VideoGamesSuck.com :: View topic - Finally building a new computer
IMO it doesn't make sense to pay the premium,for an i7/x6 unless you're running multiple monster gfx cards(gtx 4/580 or multiple 5970's)
you dont need a i7 to run a monster gfx card, it has nothing to do with i7s.
Dick_In_Your_Ass wrote:
and run some heavy multi threaded applications
this is the only area where having a good multicore helps. take a look around everything is heavily multithreaded from games to OS. And its only going to be that way till quantum computers are mainstream
Dick_In_Your_Ass wrote:
or are a benchmarker/overcocker.
only a fool would spend money just to benchmark/overclk system...these days you can overclock using a decent rig and most of the record breaking stuff is done by vendors who get reference samples and don't actually pay for it...personally overclocking is over hyped
he said he'll be playing older games,AFAIK for ex. Crysis doesn't use more than 2 cores.
Besides doesn't he have access to a "supercomputer" for work stuff-which rules out the need for a heavy processor.I think you misunderstood me or took it outta context.
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:27 pm
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puk wrote:
Does anyone where I can find a computer I can run as a linux server but is not very big? I basically want something like the Apple TV, I don't mind it being a little bigger, I just don't want a loud bulky desktop, nor do I want to spend all that money on an expensive laptop.
macmini? ha!!
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:02 pm
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Ya kinda like the mac mini
I have noticed that some of the pre built PCs are pretty cheap. Here is one I was considering purchasing as it seems cheaper than if I built it myself. Also, I would like to buy 3-4 of these so I can set up LAN gaming.
I have noticed that some of the pre built PCs are pretty cheap. Here is one I was considering purchasing as it seems cheaper than if I built it myself. Also, I would like to buy 3-4 of these so I can set up LAN gaming.
nah man,that ain't cheap.Sure you save time but never money.I mean 5450? srsly i know your games are old but c'mon.
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:17 pm
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Dick_In_Your_Ass wrote:
puk wrote:
Ya kinda like the mac mini
I have noticed that some of the pre built PCs are pretty cheap. Here is one I was considering purchasing as it seems cheaper than if I built it myself. Also, I would like to buy 3-4 of these so I can set up LAN gaming.
nah man,that ain't cheap.Sure you save time but never money.I mean 5450? srsly i know your games are old but c'mon.
One of the reasons I bought the X1600 is to see how an older-ish computer runs Crysis. Maxing out the inevitble Crysis 2 PC port is cool, but I'd honestly rather spend A LOT less on multiple computers, max out Far Cry 1, FEAR 1, FEAR 2, Crysis 1 and play LAN with my buddies. Especially so since the average game now adays plays for only 5 hours.
I have noticed that some of the pre built PCs are pretty cheap. Here is one I was considering purchasing as it seems cheaper than if I built it myself. Also, I would like to buy 3-4 of these so I can set up LAN gaming.
nah man,that ain't cheap.Sure you save time but never money.I mean 5450? srsly i know your games are old but c'mon.
One of the reasons I bought the X1600 is to see how an older-ish computer runs Crysis. Maxing out the inevitble Crysis 2 PC port is cool, but I'd honestly rather spend A LOT less on multiple computers, max out Far Cry 1, FEAR 1, FEAR 2, Crysis 1 and play LAN with my buddies. Especially so since the average game now adays plays for only 5 hours.
I gave up by the time I got to NVIDIA. I can't figure out why some of the HD5xxx cards are more expensive than the HD6xxx cards.
It seems like the GTX460 is about the same price as the HD5770 but performs much better, so I might get three of those (probably second hand off of craig's list) and then I need a slightly better one for my main computer, like a GTX580 or HD5970.
And then for CPU I'll go with Q8300 (can't find Q6600), for hard drive I'll probably go RAID1 with 2x500GB HDD ($100), Intel DG43GT Motherboard ($106) but I can't figure out why all the socket 775 mobos don't support DDR3.
How is this for a start? Is it really bad, or just bad?
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:05 am
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I'd go for AMD, it'll save quite some money on the mobo.
Generally for private purposes RAID creates more problems than it solves, and why such relatively small discs? It would seem preferable to buy just 1 HDD and backup to an external HDD (I bought an external 1.5TB HDD 1 year ago for 120 euro, these come with USB3 now and probably lower prices too), having the data backuped off your machine seems preferable anyway.
GTX 460 seems like a fine choice to me.
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:14 am
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berzerker wrote:
I'd go for AMD, it'll save quite some money on the mobo.
Generally for private purposes RAID creates more problems than it solves, and why such relatively small discs? It would seem preferable to buy just 1 HDD and backup to an external HDD (I bought an external 1.5TB HDD 1 year ago for 120 euro, these come with USB3 now and probably lower prices too), having the data backuped off your machine seems preferable anyway.
GTX 460 seems like a fine choice to me.
I was under the impression that RAID0 increases performance by distributing the work over two (identical) disks.
It's unbelievable how many mobos don't have S/PDIF !
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:49 am
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puk wrote:
I was under the impression that RAID0 increases performance by distributing the work over two (identical) disks.
In theory yes, in practice this is not a major benefit, and it also doubles the risk of hard disc failure (lose one disc = losing all data on the other too).
But you wrote you planned RAID1 (mirroring), not RAID0 (striping), so my comments were based on the former.
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:55 am
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berzerker wrote:
In theory yes, in practice this is not a major benefit, and it also doubles the risk of hard disc failure (lose one disc = losing all data on the other too).
But you wrote you planned RAID1 (mirroring), not RAID0 (striping), so my comments were based on the former.
It's amazing how after 3 years the game continues to decimate almost all computers.
You can also forget all the AA/AF and 3D bullshit and you'll see that a mid-range card gives incredible performance with Crysis, see for example my experience here. There may be a setting beyond "high" but high looks awesome, you'd probably have to look really closely to spot any differences at all. is that really worth a few hundred extra $s?
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:25 am
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berzerker wrote:
puk wrote:
I'm slowly coming to the realization that to get 1920x1200 with 4xAA, I need to dish out around $500 (GTX 480 @ 30 fps) or $700 (HD 5970 @ 40 fps) [1]
It's amazing how after 3 years the game continues to decimate almost all computers.
You can also forget all the AA/AF and 3D bullshit and you'll see that a mid-range card gives incredible performance with Crysis, see for example my experience here. There may be a setting beyond "high" but high looks awesome, you'd probably have to look really closely to spot any differences at all. is that really worth a few hundred extra $s?
That's also a good argument. It's a shame i don't have some basis of comparison. All I got is youtube videos. I tried out Crysis on my Penthium 4 and ATI X1600 and it looks like shit
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:16 pm
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6870 should do 1080p 4xaa+16xaf on High with Crysis.....4xaa does sharpen the game quite a bit, but my 4850 can't maintain playable frames, but the 6870 is probably 110-130% faster.
Btw, Warhead is the best looking game and has some beautiful environments plus heaps of frozen lakes/ice etc, which no game to date can emulate.
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