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My point is that ethnic cleansing was central to the zionist cause, and it led directly to the 1948 war. Not the other way around.
all your points and any kind understanding is wrong, Muslims are the most violent barbaric primitive people around.
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:03 pm
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_Master_ wrote:
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My point is that ethnic cleansing was central to the zionist cause, and it led directly to the 1948 war. Not the other way around.
all your points and any kind understanding is wrong, Muslims are the most violent barbaric primitive people around.
Actually, on numerous occasions the Jews abused the Arabs good nature to infiltrate them, gather intel, and later murder/imprison them. If you read this book, you really start to understand that the Zionists (not Jews) are a barbaric group. Their ultimate goal was a purely Jewish Israel.
Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:09 pm
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The nile is in the equatorial region and they have the same climate thru out. They dont have drastic seasonal variations. So this is not related to anything what i said. Ofcourse human civilizations have developed near deltas and rivers, thats a fucking no brainer.
But yes colder environments force people to be more survival adapted as compared to warm fertile climates where you have it all and become lazy. Period.
I don't understand how you could be this stubborn?!?!?
1)The Nile does NOT have the same climate throught, that's what the quote was arguing.
2)The Nile DOES have sesonal variations. It is called "the flooding of the Nile". It occurred up until the building of the Aswan dam.
3) Please give me an example of a colder environment which has forced people to be "more survival adapted".
4) Please give me an example of a warmer environment which forces people to become more lazy.
Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 11:07 pm
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I don't understand how you could be this stubborn?!?!?
puk wrote:
1)The Nile does NOT have the same climate throught, that's what the quote was arguing.
i am talking about climates of europe/russia
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2)The Nile DOES have sesonal variations. It is called "the flooding of the Nile". It occurred up until the building of the Aswan dam.
thats not the climatic variation i had in mind, if it floods you either have the option to learn to swim or move back further. its not threatening your survival like cold winter in the north where you have to had gathered food in advance and invented ways to preserve it because it was scares. This is how i believe the inventive streak kicked in.
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3) Please give me an example of a colder environment which has forced people to be "more survival adapted".
the example is how Europe became technologically advanced over other nations. it did not happen in africa or the middle east or asia or america. A lot of inventions came from britan/germany/france/russia the northern regions where they have extreme cold. in fact these nations also had a major role in the world wars because they had the technology.
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4) Please give me an example of a warmer environment which forces people to become more lazy.
you can use the opposite logic now and say well if they wherent technologically advanced then they must have taken it easy. As they say necessity is the mother of all inventions. So if they didnt have the need to invent machines/airplanes/industries/cars/computers/synthsizers...etc ok they must have been pretty content with life.
Advance infomation=> your next move will be, but what about the americans?? thats simple Americans are just European's who where kicked out from Europe. So they had those genes of creativity and invention in them.
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 11:12 pm
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puk wrote:
Actually, on numerous occasions the Jews abused the Arabs good nature to infiltrate them, gather intel, and later murder/imprison them. If you read this book, you really start to understand that the Zionists (not Jews) are a barbaric group. Their ultimate goal was a purely Jewish Israel.
i have just got some new information on islamic stupidity. will post it in a while. who is the dude who wrote the book? whats is his nationality and what are his political views?
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 4:10 am
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3) Please give me an example of a colder environment which has forced people to be "more survival adapted".
the example is how Europe became technologically advanced over other nations. it did not happen in africa or the middle east or asia or America. A lot of inventions came from britan/germany/france/russia the northern regions where they have extreme cold. in fact these nations also had a major role in the world wars because they had the technology.
Actually it did happen in Africa and the middle east and Asia. All of Europe descended, initially (later from Germania) from Rome (you can extend it to Greece). Rome here means Italy, Spain, North Africa, Syria, Palestine... Persia was a mighty empire before anyone else, and they were in the middle east. Ancient Egypt was in Africa. Furthermore, the Spanish, and Portuguese empires were both in hot climates, and France and England do not have cold climates.
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 4:16 am
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I have just got some new information on islamic stupidity. will post it in a while. who is the dude who wrote the book? whats is his nationality and what are his political views?
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine is by Ilan Pappe. He's an Israeli Jew and he's a history professor at the University of Exeter.
I don't know about his political views. But it's interesting that you are so racist that you think nationality has some bearing on credibility.
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 6:09 am
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All of Europe descended, initially (later from Germania) from Rome (you can extend it to Greece). Rome here means Italy, Spain, North Africa, Syria, Palestine...
sorry your wrong, most of history has been written by historians who wrote whatever to fashion the sentiments of the rulers.
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Persia was a mighty empire before anyone else, and they were in the middle east. Ancient Egypt was in Africa. Furthermore, the Spanish, and Portuguese empires were both in hot climates, and
sure these nations where near fertile regions and its was natural for civilizations to flourish and thats all to it. But their greatness is no more. But as far as modern science goes it started in Europe with the industrial revolution.
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France and England do not have cold climates.
yeah they never saw snow and trotted on camels across the alps covered with bird poo.
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 6:17 am
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The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine is by Ilan Pappe. He's an Israeli Jew and he's a history professor at the University of Exeter.
history is one subject which is very biased, because its a science of guess work. So its anyones guess whats written in those books, which is pretty much history to me. i look at actions of people in our world today and thats tells me much more than history.
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I don't know about his political views. But it's interesting that you are so racist that you think nationality has some bearing on credibility.
its quite a fashion these days to call some1 a racist when it suits the need to hides ones real motives to back fundamentalists blowing up random people, threatening them, causing a menace to the society.
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 6:59 am
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sorry your wrong, most of history has been written by historians who wrote whatever to fashion the sentiments of the rulers...But as far as modern science goes it started in Europe with the industrial revolution.
...yeah they never saw snow and trotted on camels across the alps covered with bird poo.
So we should not trust any of the historians, instead make up our own theories about how cold climates foster growth?
I suppose you will start splitting hairs as to what Modern Science is. And I suppose you take "In Europe" to mean "in extremely cold environments", therefore, supporting your colder is better theory.
As for "yeah they never saw snow and trotted on camels across the alps covered with bird poo", maybe Dr. Shrink could shed some light as to what this means.
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:02 am
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...history is one subject which is very biased...I look at actions of people...
There's left and right, then there's fact. Are you contending that America never dropped a nuke on Hiroshima b/c "history is biased"
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...to call some1 a racist when it suits the need to hides ones real motives....
You mean like when Israel condemns any hint of criticism as anti-semitism?
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:12 am
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So we should not trust any of the historians, instead make up our own theories about how cold climates foster growth?
keep an open mind and donot hesitate to question the motives is what i advocate.
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I suppose you will start splitting hairs as to what Modern Science is. And I suppose you take "In Europe" to mean "in extremely cold environments", therefore, supporting your colder is better theory.
too many suppositions, i think your confused.
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As for "yeah they never saw snow and trotted on camels across the alps covered with bird poo", maybe Dr. Shrink could shed some light as to what this means.
i doubt it, he was violated by suislide and mandrake. sounds like you lost a limb or something.
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:14 am
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puk wrote:
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...history is one subject which is very biased...I look at actions of people...
There's left and right, then there's fact. Are you contending that America never dropped a nuke on Hiroshima b/c "history is biased"
lets stick to the topic, send the other questions to google.
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...to call some1 a racist when it suits the need to hides ones real motives....
You mean like when Israel condemns any hint of criticism as anti-semitism?
no thats not what i meant, you wanna start your own interpretation then your entitled to that delusion. now about Israel, its an unfortunate consequence of reverse feedback caused by radical Islam.
Turns out it was in international waters, 75 miles off the coast. Israel does not seem to care about anything it does, so long as America supports it.
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:37 pm
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A fucking fellow saffer was there!
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:35 am
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Turns out it was in international waters, 75 miles off the coast. Israel does not seem to care about anything it does
Nothing new there, they do not consider themselves bound by international law, it's just a matter of time before this attitude will backfire. All sympathy they had in, say, 1950 - 1990, is completely gone now already.
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:16 am
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A fucking fellow saffer was there!
One of the peace workers was from in and around England. They were protesting by my place here.
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:23 am
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Turns out it was in international waters, 75 miles off the coast. Israel does not seem to care about anything it does
Nothing new there, they do not consider themselves bound by international law, it's just a matter of time before this attitude will backfire. All sympathy they had in, say, 1950 - 1990, is completely gone now already.
I wouldn't put it at 1990's, I'd say more like the invasion of Lebanon in the 70's. But I agree that recently people have been voicing more opinion.
Talk about planting the seeds of your own destruction
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:58 am
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In 1950, after the intervention of the Pope in Rome, the Christians were offered the opportunity to move back but refused to do so without their Muslim neighbors. Israel then destroyed half the houses and one of the village's mosques.
You really have to try hard to come across as more violent than the Christians =P
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