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btw is not a dual chip, its an single cpu chip with different processing units. cpu+gpu+memory controller. so you wont need a north bridge anymore.
Again according to arstechnica:
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Intel's design calls for the integration of GPU and memory controller; the CPU connects to this pairing via a single Quick Path Interconnect link.
So it is dual chip on one die, so Pogma9 was correct.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:47 am
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Pogma9 wrote:
Yeah....it sounds like news for the HTPC crowd, but for gamers it's close to worthless info, but seeing as though Pugwash promoted it, that's no surprise.
Well, it is only a start of course. AMD purchased ATI for exactly the reason that everyone expects CPU and GPU to be coming together some way or another.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:50 am
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I wonder if this inherent to capitalism in general. For example, you get a sector of the economy which is highly profitable, se people make sound decisions, but then the banking institutions get wind of this, and hike up their rates, and the margin of profits diminish.
I do not get this. If a sector is highly profitable, then that would somehow cause people to make sound decisions? And banks have higher rates for highly profitable business sectors? Why would this highly profitable sector need banks so deperately anyway?
Let's let an example do the talking. When westwood came out, they were a small company, and they made kick ass games (C&C, Red Alert) by spending enough time on it. Then they got bought out by EA and all sorts of constraints got placed on them, and now they have 'sold out'. It's this whole economies-of-scale issue I'm essentially pointing out.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:52 am
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berzerker wrote:
AMD purchased ATI for exactly the reason that everyone expects CPU and GPU to be coming together some way or another.
It's just that current GPU's require such elaborate coolers, so it'll be a neat trick to provide an appealing level of performance without requiring a monster sized cooler.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:54 am
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Pogma9 wrote:
It's just that current GPU's require such elaborate coolers, so it'll be a neat trick to provide an appealing level of performance without requiring a monster sized cooler.
Yes, currently an integration of the CPU in the GPU would seem easier to accomplish than the other way around. But then Intel seems too much of a power in the sector for that to happen any time soon.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:00 am
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Pogma9 wrote:
Yeah....it sounds like news for the HTPC crowd, but for gamers it's close to worthless info, but seeing as though Pugwash promoted it, that's no surprise.
your immature opinions dont matter. cpu+gpu on chip integration is bound to happen at fullscale
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:02 am
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berzerker wrote:
captnPugwash_halabalobale wrote:
btw is not a dual chip, its an single cpu chip with different processing units. cpu+gpu+memory controller. so you wont need a north bridge anymore.
Again according to arstechnica:
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Intel's design calls for the integration of GPU and memory controller; the CPU connects to this pairing via a single Quick Path Interconnect link.
So it is dual chip on one die, so Pogma9 was correct.
if your retarded enough to call it a dual chip please go ahead and do so by all means.
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:03 am
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berzerker wrote:
Yes, currently an integration of the CPU in the GPU would seem easier to accomplish than the other way around. But then Intel seems too much of a power in the sector for that to happen any time soon.
We're probably looking at well beyond 2012.
I normally spend about $250AUD on my GPU......I take the view that I'll upgrade the GPU if some good games come out, but they usually don't.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:05 am
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captnPugwash_halabalobale wrote:
Pogma9 wrote:
Yeah....it sounds like news for the HTPC crowd, but for gamers it's close to worthless info, but seeing as though Pugwash promoted it, that's no surprise.
your immature opinions dont matter. cpu+gpu on chip integration is bound to happen at fullscale
No-one really gives a fuck about your opinions, you're this forum's pet monkey.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:07 am
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Pogma9 wrote:
It's just that current GPU's require such elaborate coolers, so it'll be a neat trick to provide an appealing level of performance without requiring a monster sized cooler.
newer fabrication technologies and low power yielding semiconductors will void any requirement of monster size coolers in the near future. it seems to me you like to have a "monster" size cooler, just for the monstrosity of it.
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:08 am
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captnPugwash_halabalobale wrote:
if your retarded enough to call it a dual chip please go ahead and do so by all means.
If you do not know the distinction between the die and the chip then you are not very knowledgeable about this subject.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:17 am
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Pogma9 wrote:
captnPugwash_halabalobale wrote:
Pogma9 wrote:
Yeah....it sounds like news for the HTPC crowd, but for gamers it's close to worthless info, but seeing as though Pugwash promoted it, that's no surprise.
your immature opinions dont matter. cpu+gpu on chip integration is bound to happen at fullscale
No-one really gives a fuck about your opinions, you're this forum's pet monkey.
if that is the case then why the fuck are you giving your opinion abt my opinion. clearly you give a deep fuck.
if your retarded enough to call it a dual chip please go ahead and do so by all means.
If you do not know the distinction between the die and the chip then you are not very knowledgeable about this subject.
we are nt taking about the difference b/w die and a chip. please dont introduce 'die' to show off your extra knowledge, to impress the kids around here
a chip is just an ic, so by that definition you can have lots of ic's in a cpu. so its just a terminology. but its important to have a consistent terminology. so you dont just call them dual chip, when dual core cpu term already exist which can also be called as dual chips. no actually you call them tri chips because you have 2 cpu cores + the bus controller. so know your terms before giving out a new name and spreading wrong info on the net. kids read this and go happily calling it dual chip.
the correct term for it is hybrid cpus.
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:55 am
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Whatever, it is essentially the same configurationas the old Pentium Pro except with graphics in stead of the cache on a seperate chip, see here:
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The most widely-publicized advanced feature of the Pentium Pro is of course the integrated level 2 cache. The Pentium Pro is shipped in a special dual cavity SPGA package that includes the chip itself and the integrated cache. It goes into a special Socket 8 interface unique to the Pentium Pro. One disadvantage of this arrangement is that the cache is not upgradable without also replacing the processor.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:01 am
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exactly but you donot call a ppro a dual chip, it is simply called a ppro and not ppro dual chip. btw this is the first time you used the term 'whatever' and it is not very bezerker like, i sense a disturbance.
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:54 am
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captnPugwash_halabalobale wrote:
btw this is the first time you used the term 'whatever'
Use the search function of this forum and learn that that is not correct.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:59 am
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berzerker wrote:
captnPugwash_halabalobale wrote:
btw this is the first time you used the term 'whatever'
Use the search function of this forum and learn that that is not correct.
ha ha ha your pissed
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:52 am
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captnPugwash_halabalobale wrote:
berzerker wrote:
captnPugwash_halabalobale wrote:
btw this is the first time you used the term 'whatever'
Use the search function of this forum and learn that that is not correct.
ha ha ha your pissed
Of course he's pissed, you two fuckers keep flooding this forum with half-assed insults.
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Of course he's pissed, you two fuckers keep flooding this forum with half-assed insults.
what are you talking abt, we are having a tech discussion here.
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:21 am
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captnPugwash_halabalobale wrote:
puk wrote:
Of course he's pissed, you two fuckers keep flooding this forum with half-assed insults.
what are you talking abt, we are having a tech discussion here.
You and Pogma_YXZ and Mihai_XYZ are always getting into arguments. I actually saw the word "bummy"...I haven't heard that since elementary school.
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